Dr. Terry Grier on the Education of Houston’s Children: “The Buck Stops Here”

Terry B. Grier HISDSuperintendentWhen it Comes to the Education of Houston’s Children: “The Buck Stops Here”

By: Darwin Campbell

“You know, it’s easy for the Monday morning quarterback to say what the coach should have done, after the game is over. But when the decision is up before you — and on my desk I have a motto which says The Buck Stops Here’ — the decision has to be made.” President Harry S Truman in an address at the National War College on December 19, 1952 .

Houston- With leadership comes tough decisions and those decisions have not always been easy or popular for  Houston Independent School District Superintendent Dr. Terry Grier.

Since coming to Houston, Grier’s job has been to navigate a constant hall of mirrors in which he has had to tread firmly, yet carefully, so as not to disturb the delicate balance of funding, schools, communities and parents and dealing with a school board making decisions affecting the district’s direction and future.

“My goal is to be fair and balanced,” Grier said in an exclusive interview with African-American News&Issues. “I want the same for all HISD children as I would for my own children – I want them to be able to read, have a chance to succeed and have a sense of optimism that gives hope and provides opportunity to every youth.”

Grier became the Houston Independent School District’s superintendent of schools after a unanimous vote of the district’s Board of Education in September 2009. Under his watch, HISD’s graduation rate has increased to its all-time high (81.7 percent). Scholarship dollars offered to HISD seniors have increased from $51 million to $186 million. And the number of students scoring three or higher on Advanced Placement exams has increased by 45 percent, from 4,915 to 7,106.

The district’s Apollo 20 program has received state and national recognition—effectively eliminating the math achievement gap in Apollo elementary schools and reducing it by one-half in Apollo middle and high schools.

He is committed to placing an effective teacher in every HISD classroom and an exemplary principal in every school. To help ensure this, the district’s teacher and principal evaluation models contain indicators of student success. Grier is widely recognized for his leadership in turning around failing schools.

The results of many of his decisions have shaken up the education landscape and caused small “quakes” of disdain, unrest and protest from parents, activists and community leaders who believe the decisions place the future of the district on shaky ground –  a charge Grier contends is premature and unfounded.

On District Unrest

Grier said he is aware of the unrest, activism and conspiracy theories and the calls for his job, but remains undaunted and will continue to do what he feels will keep the district growing, educated and prepared for the future.

“History shows that this has been a longstanding problem in Houston, but I don’t want the friction or bad relationships to occur or continue,” he said. “I am what you see. I don’t play games and don’t have any hidden conspiracies. What I want is for all our children to get a quality education and I want all students reading on grade level by the Third grade.”

Grier said his sole focus is on educating children and one of the first ideas he wants to dispel is the idea that there is a conspiracy against Black neighborhoods or to close schools in the Black communities in HISD.

“Are they part of a conspiracy,” he said. “Why are they not supporting their own neighborhood schools? 

According to Grier, some activists came and boycotted his home, but the irony of the issue is that many of those who protested the closing of neighborhood schools either sent their children to private schools or opted to enroll and send their children to more affluent schools in West Houston.

Sending the those children out of the neighborhood drove the cost per pupil costs to levels that simply were not acceptable, he said.

For example, Jones High School has 2000 kids in its attendance zone, but the district was spending $3 million for three years to educate 450 students – the cost to educate being about $17,000 per student, compared to $6,500 per student in other schools. Even with the spending and improvements in education and safety, parents from the neighborhood still did not put their children back in Jones.

“People get upset and say I am being disrespectful,” Grier said. “I am being reasonable. I am giving you the facts. Many African-American politicians and parents did not send their kids to school in the areas proposed for closing…if parents wont put their own student there what are we going to do?”

He also added that still fewer of the same protesters ever told the public the truth about it and currently do not come to the neighborhood school to volunteer, read or speak to kids at those schools on a regular basis.

Grier emphasized that he is working for the success of every student and continues to work hard to make schools fair, balanced and equitable.

“I don’t want any child dropping out of school,” he said. “If you are an African-American male, and you drop out, there is an 85-percent chance you will be incarcerated before your 25th birthday. We all know that and see that and I worry that we are not dong enough about it.”

Grier said he is committed to preventing such grim statistics by starting early with children and working to solve the literacy issue, especially among African-American students.

“The group that is doing poorest in reading is our African-American children,” he said. “There needs to be loud call to arms among our parents, preachers and community activists… If I were an activist, in my own way, I would raise cane and want to know why we aren’t teaching these kids to read and who is getting in their way.”

“The district has spent $9 million for new books for all elementary schools that will go in classrooms,” he said. “The books are grade level appropriate and there are books in every library at all levels available to read and that are interesting, culturally relevant and will engage kids.”

He also added that books are in every classrooms that can be taken home to help nurture and develop skills and is encouraging kids to take books home.

Grier noted that even though parents are busy and working two or three jobs and trying to make ends meet, but he suggested that if parents in the Black community would read with or to children 20 minutes a day, seven day a week, it would help to defeat the literacy problem in the community.

Also, encourage children to read to us 10-minutes each day before school.

“I am a strong advocate of neighborhood schools, but neighborhood schools have to work,” he said. “No question. They have to work and we need community involvement and community activism to  come volunteer and help it become reality.”

On Inequality

The superintendent makes clear his commitment to developing and continuing plans to address and eliminate inequality and the perception that rich school get more than poor schools.

That formula includes considerations for such things as special education, free and reduced lunch, handicaps and language.

“We change the way magnate schools are funded. People from poorer backgrounds need more money than an affluent school does so, it is based on a per pupil formula to determine the need,” he said. “That is the way to be fair and that is the way to be equitable. That has never happened before in Houston.”

For example, Booker T. Washington was getting little money for engineering programs at its school. Now, BTW gets $750 per student for its engineering program – the same amount law enforcement is getting and same amount Sterling High School is getting for Aviation Academy.

“We have tried to be consistent,” he said. “Funding is the same no matter where your school is located, regardless of zip code or part of town. It is balancing the scales based on funding and pupil ratios.”

In other programs, elementary and Fine Arts programs get $350 per student to run school. Middle School are getting $250. High Schools $1,150

He hopes that the community will step forward and partner with him for the overall future of the district.

Community and Board Relationships

“We have a heavy load to pull and we can’t pull it by ourselves,” he said. “ We have to have community help and support…. some of the people pushing, others pulling and some digging to help us gain traction. It takes a total community to do it and we welcome them to come because we must do it together.”

Grief said he feels good about the great representation on board from the African-American  community.

 “Each are advocates for quality education and outreach,” he said.

 With community involvement and developing relationships at the center of Grier’s plan for educational progress, the most important pieces of the plan is what parents are willing to do once kids get home from school.

One of the ways be believes the standards can be raised quicker is more parental involvement with children at earlier ages that focuses on boosting reading and literacy among young children.

“PTA and volunteerism are good, but real issue need help is what happens at home and in the home,” he said.

“It is very important to take time, read to and with child because it would help us deal with the  literacy issue.”


On Discipline

Grier addressed the discipline report for the Office of Civil Rights that showed police citations, suspensions and police involvement with students in HISD are down compared to other districts in the area.

One of the ways has addressed doing that over past several years in teacher training and changing the school facades.

“We started making schools looking less like minimum security detention centers in neighborhoods and more like education and learning centers.”

He got rid of old chain link fences, barbed wire had them replaced adding more appropriate. Take down fencing and upgraded facilities and facades.

“My children in the poorest parts of town are going to have facilities that look like the wealthiest part of town,” he said. “ I will not present a negative image to kids that the schools in their neighborhoods are so dangerous that we have to have barbed wire and metal detectors… We got that part licked.”

He also issued redirections on how the campus police and teachers deal with crisis on school campuses.

“It needed to change because you can’t treat a child bad or make him or her feel like a criminal and then expect him to want to learn or his behavior to be good,” he said. “We stopped the nonsense of giving tickets at school for simple disrespect and such. No tickets are given unless a violation of law occurs.”

He also encouraged officers to find different and more positive ways to relate with young people.

“We are proud of the progress, but we still need to work on getting our staffs to develop more tolerance and understanding when it comes to African-American males and special education students,” he said. “There is still a lot of work still to do”  

Some of that work involves lowering the suspension rates of African-American males. Currently they are being suspended 4x more that other students in the district. According to Grier, many of the students are being suspended by Black teachers at predominantly African-American neighborhood schools.

In his farewell address to the American people given in January 1953, President Truman referred to this concept of ultimate accountability and responsibility when he said that, “The President–whoever he is–has to decide. He can’t pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That’s his job.”

Grier said Truman assertion is correct. Despite issues surrounding the children, inequality, unrest, alleged conspiracy theories, building community relationships, activism, discipline or the board, “The Bucks Stop Here.”





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  1. Stephen

    I use to volunteer tutor mathematics at Jones. My wife taught math there. Many of us had been screaming for years Grier was waging a war on black schools and the teachers in them. Nobody cared to hear it. He has spent the last four plus years firing and running teachers off. His excuse and spin is the teachers being fired and those quitting are the underperforming teachers. It took me two years to open my wife’s eyes to the fact if she stayed in HISD it would end a career she had dreamed of since the ninth grade at Sterling High School. She didn’t want to leave Jones but after religiously being harrassed, belittled and bullied she finally saw the writing on the wall and left. Her first year in suburban district she was selected teacher of the year! Two years in and her End Of Course pass rate is 90 plus percent. And yes I now volunteer at that school. I hope the “community” is finally aware of what Griers education turnaround plan entails. It means he’s busing out underperforming neighborhood children and “repurposing” the school with students who will perform. He gets to claim he turned Jones around and collect a fat 100k bonus for the hard work. On top of his 230k plus yearly salary! He filled that district with teachers from California. Most all of them quit. He ran to Teach For America for teachers. Most all of them quit. Now his importing underpaid rural teachers from North Carolina. You can best believe they’ll be quitting also. Grier doesn’t care because he’s buying time while formulating his exit plan. The board member charged to watch him is no better. Paula has kept a low profile since being caught giving contracts to friends. You would think it would anger the “community” enough to vote her out. Nope, she hosted a basketball tournament in her name. She paid for a deejay, food and passed out Paula Harris tee shirts and all was forgiven. It is a pure shame what is going on in black Houston with education. It reminds me of one of the ending lines from John Singleton’s Boys In The Hood. “Either they don’t know, don’t show, or don’t care what’s going on in the hood.” And the includes the community and our black political elite.

  2. George Scott

    When a reporter enters an interview so grossly underprepared with a person of Grier’s background, position, and grasp of his own, self-delusional factoids, this is the puffery in the disguise of a news interview that is produced.

    As far as I can tell from the remarks the reporter has chosen to produce here, this was a classic, powder puff interview that produced a stereotypical results by a superintendent armed with decades of experience in spinning disaster into a more pleasing non-reality to suit his political objectives.

    Sad. It did not have to be this way. Long held and unreasonable spite really cost this newspaper a great opportunity to advance the cause of equity and accountability. In fact, this is tragically sad from my perspective.

    1. aframnews

      I remember the words of the Great Savior who once said: “A prophet is not without honor, except in his own country.”
      You shall know the truth and it will set you free… Faith and courage my friend is a quality long lost on those who faint in battle….

  3. Charles Watson

    After reading this article. All I can do is shake my head in disgust. You could have taken African American News and Issues off the header and placed from the desk of Terry Grier. Nobody would ever know the difference. This my friends is when you know the fight is fixed.

    1. aframnews

      The fight is far from being over. I am amazed that you have surrendered and raised your white flag so quickly.

  4. Unbalanced Untruthful Propaganda

    According to Grier. . . “Are they part of a conspiracy,” he said. “Why are they not supporting their own neighborhood schools? Last time I check these schools are part of the HISD school system. There are no mine and their. Grier is a left over from the old East Carolina “tobaca (tobacco) old boy mentality. His time has past. Houston is too progressive of a city to be stuck with the ideologies of the Jim Crow, segregation mentality.

  5. LoRetta Brock

    D L Campbell

    You have truly showed your professionalism and non bias in reporting as demonstrated in your exculsive expose on Dr. Terry Grier. We have long awaited a continguous comprehensive response from the person at the helm of one of the largest independent districts in the nation. Thank you for your persistence on behalf of the community. You have won my trust. Anyone, from this point forward if not previously, should be confident knowing that you will deliver to us as they delivered to you.

    LoRetta Brock
    fb The People Hold The Purse

  6. George Scott

    Wow. A reporter is supposed to be a reporter; ask tough questions based upon informed research; and press government officials off their bullet points.

    This story was written by a stenographer.

    Houston I.S.D. as have virtually every school district in Texas have skated on an elaborate hoax that they have met their moral, ethical, and constitutional burden to close the academic equity gap between white and minority students.

    They have done so on the back of a corrupt, dishonest accountability system that Grier and others before him and with him have used to misrepresent the true grade level skills of students. This gross misrepresentation has produced a system that has failed to allocate the resources and the programs to actually play a significant role in obtaining realistic, meaningful closure of the equity gap that was solidified as constitutional law in Texas in 1995.

    The role of a reporter and a newspaper is NOT to “deliver to us as they delivered to you;” rather, it is to search for facts; press government bureaucrats on those facts; and reports facts – not Grier’s intellectual spittum.


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